Is it not Egil? That's the way it's pronounced and spelt in several english subs i've seen, even the offical one from japan I bought.
Is it not Egil? That's the way it's pronounced and spelt in several english subs i've seen, even the offical one from japan I bought.
if you were half as smart as you think you are
Actually, I've read the works in question in the SAO analysis thread I posted. Have a good look at Asuna's name as it's rendered in kanji in that thread.
You mean to say presumptuous or pretentious; to presume or pretend to know something? Thus 'appearing smarter than you actually are'? That's usually the defense of a 'Real Angry Child' (aka Shinjii). Actually, 98% of the info in that post is objective and factual. I've already stated that I haven't read Egil's Saga or the prose/poetic eddas yet (but plan to), which nullifies your 'presumption' about what I have/have not read. However, I doubt Reki has either, and the references to Norse are rather sparse. Those others are not:
If you were so concerned, you would read the actual 'source materials', which are Faust, Midsummers, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Norse and Greek mythologies. Otherwise, your opinion is meaningless in these matters.
> I know that I know nothing - Socrates (He'd prefer not to have an opinion of something he does not comprehend; the definition of presumption/pretension).
> He then sang a poem declaring that "Runes none should (en)grave ever/Who know not (how) to read them." - Egil Skallagrimsson
> The audience doesn't care what it means / A writer can't think that way though. - Yotarou/Yuurakutei (Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu)
Not everyone watches Evangelion (with even fewer people bothering to analyse it), and since you've read SAO, you should keep your references to SAO.
Which part of your argument is objective? An opinion that something should relate to what you think it is? (IE that Agil is a reference to some norse myth guy whom I have never heard of?) I have read the major norse myths, and Egill whatshisname doesn't trigger my radar one bit.
BTW, what are your source materials' language of origin? Can you read them in latin, german,norse and greek? or do you read about it in English? because those aren't actual sources, they have already been translated (and probably lost some meaning in translation, which can't be helped). Else you'd be spelling Egill in runes. ~~A former translator
Okay, I think this argument has gone on for quite long enough. Anonymous user # 76.69.77.240, you argued your points quite exhaustingly, so rest assured, the admins will be handling the matter, though if you had the time to debate with us on the spelling of Agil's player name, you could have just gone to Reki's Twitter yourself and collected a conclusive response. Mamue, if we do have confirmation from Reki that Agil's name should be spelled as is, we should have that as a reference on the trivia section of Agil's page to keep with the guidelines and prevent another circular debate like this pop up. Plus, and I don't know about you guys, but I for one am growing tired of seeing this circular argument perpetuate itself through repeating the same points, so let's just find a conclusive answer to the subject and be done with it. Sorry if this sounds a little blunt.
Wikiwalker11291 wrote:
we should have that as a reference on the trivia section of Agil's page
Do we do that with other names? I thought we just put the Official Naming template on the page, then listed the source in the Official Naming List, something we've already done for Agil.
Wikiwalker11291 wrote:
we should have that as a reference on the trivia section of Agil's page
Well, it's just that the Official Naming List uses the anime and the Material Editions as references for Agil's IGN, and from what I can tell from his responses in this thread, the anon who started this topic in the first place apparently doesn't place much trust in either of them. Seems likes he wants a definitive statement from the author himself, such as one of Reki's tweets. Besides, it's not like it's unheard of on this wiki before; we used the Q&A sessions to cite the reason behind Klein's avatar name on his triva section.
If anon wants a tweet about Agil's name being romanized correctly, I'll gladly link him the tweet where Kawahara says the Material Edition stories are canon. That should be enough evidence, no? I mean, they're published by Kawahara and he says they're canon, what more does one need?
As for Klein's avatar name, I think that's in the Trivia section because it's more of a "how Klein decided on his name" rather than "'Klein' is his official IGN".
Clarification: The image containing his name, as drawn by Reki was linked in this thread. That should be included as a reference, as it is not cited on Agil's page officially.
Furthermore, as stated: It's trivia, and if it's Anglicized as 'Agil', then that is the case, which falls in line with a play on words. However, if you do ever get a response from Reki then add it as trivia. Nothing more needs to be said.
I don't follow, the image can be found in the image gallery subpage for Agil and is cited on the Official Naming List, why would we cite it on the page as well? I don't recall this being done for any other characters.
Also, why is the anglicization trivia? It's just an anglicization, there's no trivia behind how said anglicization came to be.
Hi guys! I also have a question. His name is in which word order? The japanese or the english?
エギルこと本名アンドリュー・ギルバート・ミルズが、現実世界でも店を経営していたと知ったときはなるほどと思った。人種的には生粋のアフリカン・アメリカンだが、同時に親の代からの江戸っ子でもあるそうで、住み慣れた御徒町に喫茶店兼バーを開いたのが二十五歳の時らしい。客にも恵まれ、美人の奥さんも貰って、さあこれからという時にSAOの虜囚となった。二年後に帰還したときは店のことは殆ど諦めていたそうだが、奥さんが細腕でのれんを守り抜いたということだ。実にいい話だ。
アンドリュー・ギルバート・ミルズ is the important part, which is the name in the order Andrew Gilbert Mills.